If you are unsure of what counts as encyclopedic, feel free to run it by other users first. On what ground do you say so? Should probably be verified by a mod literate in Japanese to give it some context... but google translate mentions bread. As for Shu, I changed it in accordance with Mai. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. Janemba4eva (talk) 16:03, October 16, 2012 (UTC), Pumpkins are fruits, not vegetables. In Japanese, "~ san (~さん)" is a title of respect added to a name. Find out below. Pan means bread in some languages, so that's from Gohan's side of the family. In 1639, the Tokai-ji Temple was constructed by Iemitsu for Takuan Osho at the southern base of Gotenyama. He tries to remove the author's comment which is perfectly sourced and to keep the completely groundless information about Greek mythology. -- 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. What does it mean, and what language is it in? Why do you keep reverting although I have added sources. English words for 語 include word and language. Definition of goton in the Definitions.net dictionary. Is it a pun on Panties? It may be not well-known in the West, but in Japan and China, even small child knows about the cloud in the Journey to the West. Son is the title inherited from his adoptive grandfather, Grandpa Gohan, or just Son Gohan. No way! For example, this article says Nappa is a Chinese term for greens in general, particular "cabbage". He is referred to as Kakarot (or Kakarrot) by his rival, Vegeta. I haven't changed "Pan" and "Krillin" yet although I really want to change it. (Well, I named her Pan (bread) simply because she is a child of Gohan (rice)). "Possibly a play off the chinese dish, "puu puu""?? Goku is a male name which, in Japanese, mean sky. The sourced author's comment should be kept and the groundless information should be removed.--Lupinthe3rd 19:41, October 18, 2010 (UTC), Are you guys sure Trunks and Future Trunks should be mentioned separately when it's exactly the same name? What does the abbreviation "SSJ" stand for in the Dragon Ball franchise? Relevance. If you want to do a rewrite without adding bias, that would be fine. Second, I did not remove existing content. -- 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. And you removed author's comment although it is well-sourced just because you don't like it. I would like you to accept my statement about Pan, at least. -- 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 80% African Dutch (Afrikaans) 10% German. Please do not say I ignore your statement altogether. 10%. While he does drop the Kanji before the Saiyans arrive, he reps Piccolo’s colors all the way through the end of the Cell Games. But it actually is a Japanese word and does not mean cabbage. And why is consensus required to make edits? That's why I changed the statement on Shu into "Part of 'shumai'" from "Short for 'shumai'". Against the backdrop of its prosperity as a port down during the Muromachi Era, Shinagawa was originally a … Ten is the Japanese pronunciation for the Chinese character 天 and it means "sky" and "heaven" both in Chinese and Japanese. In Japanese, literally meaning "candy cloud", kinto meaning "candy" and noun meaning "cloud"." When I see a bad edit, I revert it. Against the backdrop of its prosperity as a port down during the Muromachi Era, Shinagawa was originally a destination with many temples. [9], ( I think I named him so because it sounds nice. Son Goku is the main character in the dragonball series. Your version picked your two favorites, left them as facts, and threw the other two away as merely possible. Definition of goton in the Definitions.net dictionary. I corrected these misunderstandings and mere guesses and added the source[2]. As it is now, it makes it seem like all meanings are official, when any or all of them could be coincidence. What right do you have to judge what is right and what is wrong? Goten: Meaning of Goten . Janemba4eva (talk) 05:24, October 16, 2012 (UTC), I've redone the edits on both the name page and Pan page, placing the bread one first since it seems to have basis in Dragonball literature, whereas the other ones have none. As for Shu, he becomes Shumai (a traditional Chinese dumpling served in dim sum) when combined with Mai, his partner. )), I don't understand why you want to revert my edits although they are sourced. I also quoted the official comment by the author. In the area from Kita Shinagawa Station on the Keikyu Main Line to Aomono-Yokocho Station of present-day Shinagawa Ward, there was used to be something called Shinagawa-shuku (Shinagawa Post Station), which was the first of the fifty-three stations of the Tokaido. Ten is the Japanese pronunciation for the Chinese character 天 and it means "sky" and "heaven" both in Chinese and Japanese[1]. If so, I'll change them right away. The former version simply listed the puns. As such, his name is the Japanese version of Sun Wukong, and can also mean cloud in reference to the character's method of travel. What does the name Goten mean? I only wanted to uniform the two statements. Certainly though, Pan (bread) should be listed first on both the name origin's page and on Pan's page. Son is the title inherited from his adoptive grandfather, Grandpa Gohan, or just Son Gohan. He says the edit "should have been reverted, according to talk page", but what does he mean by "according to talk page"? ), "牛魔王の娘なので、牛に関係したもので女の子っぽい名前、ということで「乳」から。", (Since she is a daughter of the Ox King, I wanted to give her a girlish name related to cows or oxes. What is wrong about my edits above? gotten meaning: 1. past participle of get: 2. past participle of get: 3. past participle of get: . In actuality, there is no town by the name of Gotenyama in present-day Shinagawa Ward. It was in the Edo era that this area became even more prosperous due to the building of a palace for the shogun up on the hillock overlooking Shinagawa-shuku in 1636; the palace was called Shinagawa Goten. Shinagawa Goten was the shogun’s resting place when he’d go hunting with his falcons and was located at the entrance in and out of Edo. The article says that Mercenary Tao was named after the Vietnamese word for apple. A submission from Argentina says the name Gohan means "Rice" and is of Japanese origin. However, the name does live on in modern times and is used at schools, apartment complexes, town churches, as well as in the name of Gotenyama Trust City. So after browsing through this thread (mostly for entertainment.. internet fighting lol), I'm confused as to why Pan's name origin has not been updated. But actually you gave me only one warning. So it's not entirely correct to say "All full-blooded Saiyans' names are puns on various vegetable names." Since there are many possible puns on "pan," it's impossible to say which ones were intended, as an official quote from AT may not even be available. Goten is Gohan's younger brother and Trunks' best friend. Adding the author's comment should not be regarded against "consensus" or anything.--202.16.213.253 00:17, September 7, 2010 (UTC). - User:Kill You/sig 18:54, April 27, 2011 (UTC). Tokugawa Iemitsu, the third shogun of the Tokugawa dynasty, was someone who particularly visited the castle on a frequent basis. I don't find my edits wrong at all while your edits are to selfish. It is not worth mentioning here but the authors comment is. Additionally, you have made a very hypocritical statement by pointing out that there is an unsourced claim by Toriyama. I maintain that my version was less biased. *Disclosure: Some of the links above are affiliate links, meaning, at no additional cost to you, Fandom will earn a commission if you click through and make a purchase. What is wrong here? Also a Japanese slang term for "breasts". As for Goten, I only changed "Chinese" into "Japanese" because "Ten" is the Japanese pronunciation without doubt. You cannot find such a word in any Japanese dictionaries. Just wanted to throw my opinion out there. What if the majority agreed that Super Perfect Cell is stronger than Kid Buu, does that make it so? I really do not understand why you do not believe the author...--大空翼 15:34, September 3, 2010 (UTC), Then what do you mean? By the way, as I explicitly stated in an earlier conversation, a consensus is only needed to make a disputed change, not to leave the pages as is. An alien race from Planet Vegeta, that are identical to humans in almost every way, except they have a tail, that if they look at a full moon with a tail, they transform into King Kong sized WereMonkeys, or Oozaru's, which can fire energy blasts from thier mouth usually, and rarely from other various parts of their body. Why Vietnamese, although no other pun is from Vietnamese? Despite its easternmost section completely demolished, and a huge section of the neighboring western section quarried beyond repair, Goten’yama could have recovered as a prime hanami spot in Edo-Tōkyō. As for Mr. Popo, once again I do not understand on what ground you deny my edit AT ALL although I simply quoted the comment by the author, Akira Toriyama. After entering the era of Tokugawa Yoshimune, both Asukayama in Kita Ward and Gotenyama experienced afforestation, and Gotenyama became a place where people went to view the cherry blossoms and to enjoy shell gathering; this made the area popular as a destination for leisure amongst the commoners of Edo, the liveliness of which is portrayed by many ukiyoe artists, including Utagawa Hiroshige and Katsushika Hokusai. I heard that "Goku" means something like "eats a lot" in Japanese, but don't quote me on that. The prefix grandpa is used to avoid confusion with Goku's first son, Gohan. Directory: Characters → Earthling → Earthlings with Saiyan blood Directory: Characters → Dragon Team Son Goten (孫そん悟ご天てん, Son Goten) is the youngest son of Goku and his wife Chi-Chi, making him a Saiyan and Earthling hybrid. Akira Toriyama says he named him Tao Paipai (桃白白) because he wanted his name to sound cute although he was scary. Origin and Meaning of Goten User Submitted Origins. Dragon Ball Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. There are also Japanese gardens meticulously attended to, as well as shoin rooms which can be used for tea gatherings and the like, making for a fitting place to experience the beauty of Japanese culture. Therefore this should be listed first, since it has apparently been stated by Toriyama. Son Goku is the main character in the dragonball series. Everything name meaning, origin, pronunciation, numerology, popularity and more information about Goten at NAMEANING.NET For accuracy's sake, Pan bread (the official origin) should be listed first, with language stating that Pan may also refer to the other meanings, making it clear that this has not been confirmed by official material. Note that this version is almost identical to my original one. Excuse me but don't you think your argument is a little bit self-righteous? It can be used with both male and female names, and with either surnames or given names . He is the second and last child of Son Goku, and his wife, Chi-Chi, making him a half Saiyan and Human hybrid. 10xKamahameha removed the author's comment which is sourced. I think that on japanise goten means court or palace '御殿' .. "まあこれは、単にご飯の子供ならパンかなと"[5] First column, 10th row. Meaning of goton. 03:54, October 16, 2012 (UTC). I actually do not understand why I need your permission to remove that silly information but I would really like you to understand my statements.--大空翼 12:14, September 2, 2010 (UTC), DO you mean my edits on Vegeta, Pan, Krillin, the Flying Nimbus and Mr. Popo are OK too? That is just how it is. Son Goten (孫悟天) is a main character in the Dragon Ball manga, and in the animes Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball GT. It is misleading to asserting that Krillin's name comes from kuri and shaolin as if it is determined althogh there is no proof. See more. However, there is also the Pan Flute, whch might hail from piccolo's name heritage. What does goton mean? I simply added the author's comment and have not removed the groundless rumours. Find more words! -- 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. More meanings for 御殿 (Goten) palace noun. You just said 2 are possible and the ones you like are facts. But Gohan is not treated any differently for this name by his father. He is referred to as Kakarot (or Kakarrot) by his rival, Vegeta. It would be chaos to let anyone change whatever they wanted until the community voted otherwise. Mai is "Part of shumai", so I states Shu is "Part of shumai". Chinese pronunciation for the character, 天, is Tian. I call your deed vandalism. You have never showed me any source. Why am I even posting this? So I neamed her Chichi. "ベジータ" is pronounced "Bejiita". Why do you act as if you knew what is right and wrong although you don't? For example, a guide book of Dragonball named Dragonball Landmark", which was published in Japan in 2003, adopts the spelling "Begeta". Meaning that riches gotten by good means, and just labor, pace slowly; but when they come by the death of others (as by the course of inheritance, testaments, and the like), they come tumbling upon a man. Trunks (Japanese: トランクス, Hepburn: Torankusu) is a character in the Dragon Ball manga series created by Akira Toriyama.Within the series, he is the half-Saiyan half-Human son of Vegeta and Bulma and has at least two noteworthy incarnations. You told me two lies, I'm afraid. Nagoya City in Aichi Prefecture is one of the largest cities in Japan, and one of the biggest metropolises in the Tokai region in central Japan. You say I am wrong althogh I have official information sources. What mistake have I made? 裁判所, 宮廷, 公判廷, 公方, 殿上. At the Shinagawa Historical Museum, you’ll be able to learn about the history of Shinagawa. Shinagawa is not only located at the gateway in and out of Edo, it also flourished as a strategic shipping point since very long ago due to the Shinagawa Harbor located on the Pacific Ocean side of the area. -- .10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. Her name is a pun on bread. It is not a triple pun. I am back. Ten is not Chinese althogh it is from Chinese. Given the great view from the compound, it is thought that the castle also functioned as a defense base. As for Pan, I don't understand AT ALL why you say it was incorrect. First, you said you had warned me several times before you blocked me. You provided no source, and when I asked for one you completely ignored my request. Since rice is an essential part of Japanese cuisine, the two meanings very much overlap. Fully name "GOTEN" not just "ten" means court/palace!.. 昼飯 hirumeshi 昼ご飯 … Flourishing as a port town and loved as a destination for leisure, the Shinagawa and Gotenyama area evolved as a cultural city and was the setting for historical events due to the favorable environment there. Goten was created in the DBZ series to replace Goku as Akira Toriyama wanted to retire Goku from the series, allowing Gohan to take command. Is her name a pun on Frying Pan? 1 decade ago. Jimmykiller9talkcontrib 03:13, June 28, 2011 (UTC), 10xKamehameha try to remove the author's well-sourced comment here too, though he is sticking to the idea that Krillin's name comes from Kuri and Shaolin, which has no information source. Pan of Greek mythology is a huge stretch, because Videl's family is "Satan" themed, not "religion" themed. 16:31, September 3, 2010 (UTC), Doesn't matter; need consensus. Do you say you cannot trust Akira Toriyama? [11][12] I only added some information. In the case of Pan, the moderator should make a judgement based on the evidence provided, and not just on people's opinions. If you consult a Japanese-English dictionary, you cannot find any "Kinto" meaning candy. Maslego 16:25, September 2, 2010 (UTC), I have no idea why you are getting so worked up over a piece of trivia on one web site. As for Goten, it says Ten is Chinese for "sky" but also means heaven/afterlife in Japanese. So, just what does the “Goten” in the geographical name Gotenyama mean? However, I do think some type of judgement call should play a role. No, because this is not supported by evidence from the franchise or associated official material. It should be like "Ten means "sky", "heaven", "afterlife" in Japanese". 10%. I have no idea at all how the first writer got the idea about Pan of Greek mythology or the Pan Flute. Edo definition, a member of an Indigenous people of western Africa, in the Benin region of southern Nigeria. As you said, ご〜 go-is an honorific prefix, which makes ご飯 gohan the politer alternative used in more polite speech. "Mai" states "Part of 'shumai'". It is only a mere guess by the editor. This is one of the most interesting pieces of Kanji in the series, not because of what it means (it simply means “God” and Kami’s name in Japanese is already just literally “God,”) but because of Dende. Goku is most popular as being the name for the main character of the series Dragon Ball Z, created by Akira Toriyama. Son Goten (孫悟天) is a main character in the Dragon Ball manga, and in the animes Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball GT. The author says so [6] . Tao has nothing to do with apple. While the name of the ship is recited as "Goten-gō" in Japanese, it should be rendered as "Goten" in English; as the suffix, 号 (gō), simply denotes the object as a ship. Akira Toriyama named her Chichi, meaning milk, because his father is the Ox king. gotten definition: 1. past participle of get: 2. past participle of get: 3. past participle of get: . I've already told you the only way it's going to change. He is the second and last child of Son Goku, and his wife, Chi-Chi, making him a half Saiyan and Human hybrid. But, as the end of the Edo Period drew near, Gotenyama and Yatsuyama were dismantled and sediment was readied for reclamation in an effort to build a fort called Shinagawa Odaiba, in order to stop the arrival of American delegate Mathew Perry. [7][8] Candy has absolytely nothing to do with it. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission! That’s why it’s said that the name Gotenyama likely originates from the concept of the mountain (or “yama” in Japanese) upon which the shogun’s Shinagawa Goten sits. It is no slang but actually a general term. What do you think you are doing? 18:26, September 4, 2010 (UTC), You're officially wasting your time arguing, nothing will be changed without a consensus. This is a big tokoname-yaki jar from the first half of the 15th century discovered in Gotenyama. It is thought to have been brought to the port town of Shinagawa via ocean transportation. In Japanese, "~ san (~さん)" is a title of respect added to a name. Similarly, Goten's name means "sky," and one might think Gohan's name follows this air-themed trend. Also see the lists of names of Japanese, African Dutch (Afrikaans), or German origins. Another word for Opposite of Meaning of Rhymes with Sentences with … Learn more. Your version had far more bias than the section did before. I don't know why the first writer said such a thing. You blocked me saying I had removed exsisting content although I didn't. As for Goten, it says Ten is Chinese for "sky" but also means heaven/afterlife in Japanese. 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